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::It would seem to be a shorthand colloquism for a half esterified dicarboxylic acid from the reference listed above.  I am not sure that it is a "real" chemical term widely used. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 00:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
::It would seem to be a shorthand colloquism for a half esterified dicarboxylic acid from the reference listed above.  I am not sure that it is a "real" chemical term widely used. [[User:David E. Volk|David E. Volk]] 00:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


:Reasonable; sure!  The two chemists I've spoken to reconned it a colloquism, but didn't get the "half esterified dicarboxylic acid".  So should CZ include it or not?  Thanks, [[User:Peter Lyall Easthope|Peter Lyall Easthope]] 18:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
:Reasonable; sure!  The two chemists I've spoken to reconned it a colloquialism, but didn't get the "half esterified dicarboxylic acid".  So should CZ include it or not?  Thanks, [[User:Peter Lyall Easthope|Peter Lyall Easthope]] 18:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

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In the Citizendium:Ester/Related_Articles I've listed Chemistry as the parent topic. Can anyone suggest a more specific parent? Thanks, ... Peter Lyall Easthope 17:44, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

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How about Organic chemistry Fatty acid chemistry

Not all esters are organic--Wikipedia gives the example of a phosphoric acid ester. Not every ester can be derived from a fatty acid. Peter Lyall Easthope 23:24, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

What is a half-ester?

David E. Volk 14:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

David, that is precisely the question which turned up here and prompted me to insert the term in the Related Articles. As far as I can tell it is an ester according to my definition where R2 is as small as possible without being H; ie. R2=C00H. Reference [[1]]. Investigating further, Peter Lyall Easthope 19:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
It would seem to be a shorthand colloquism for a half esterified dicarboxylic acid from the reference listed above. I am not sure that it is a "real" chemical term widely used. David E. Volk 00:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Reasonable; sure! The two chemists I've spoken to reconned it a colloquialism, but didn't get the "half esterified dicarboxylic acid". So should CZ include it or not? Thanks, Peter Lyall Easthope 18:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
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