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==Milt==
Milt was a great contributor to our project who invested a lot of his own knowledge and time in it; Citizendium is much poorer without him. He was highly trusted and respected, previously serving as the project's Treasurer and on the elected Management and Editorial Councils. However, we were a small part of a long life: Milt completed his degree in 1944, but his graduation was delayed while he saw action in Europe during the Second World War. Decades of experience in both chemical and environmental engineering followed, and he would become a well-published authority on various aspects of these fields, as recognized by his Fellowship of the American Institute of Chemical Engineers. His daughter also tells me he liked to apply his engineering approach to everyday life by collecting recipes and carefully replicating dishes he'd enjoyed. Milt stood firm against pseudoscience and other nonsense, as we at Citizendium can attest, and was a strong proponent of the science and the facts. I am sure I speak for those who knew him here when I say that we will miss him. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 12:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
:RIP Milt. He was a nice gent. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] ([[User talk:Ro Thorpe|talk]]) 14:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
:RIP Milt.  [[User:JeromeDelacroix|Jérôme Delacroix]] ([[User talk:JeromeDelacroix|talk]]) 18:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC+1)
:RIP Milt. You embodied the true spirit of Citizendium at its best.[[User:Roger A. Lohmann|Roger A. Lohmann]] ([[User talk:Roger A. Lohmann|talk]]) 04:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
:RIP MIlt. As a collaborator and colleague, he will be missed. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] ([[User talk:Russell D. Jones|talk]]) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


== I just archived the last batch of postings. ==
Milt had an abundance of wisdom, passion and knowledge. He was with Citizendium from the early days, and embraced fully the spirit and idealism with which Citizendium was launched. He made an enormous contribution to the project. [[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] ([[User talk:Gareth Leng|talk]]) 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
That is why this page looks so empty and desolate at the moment. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 01:41, 6 October 2008 (CDT)


== changes ==
I have missed Milt ever since he needed to leave the project, and I will always remember him fondly.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 01:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)


All these changes (move tab gone too) relate to a software update, as far as i can tell. I assume they will be restored with time. Another difference I noticed was that in the [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages special pages link] the different opions are now categorised rather than being in alphabetical order. [[User:Chris Day|Chris Day]] 20:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
== Milt's productivity as chemical engineer ==


==Could I get your thoughts on [[Incident Command System]]==
Let us temper our sadness in the passing of our esteemed colleague with a celebration of his achievements in his field of endeavor. Google Scholar has tabulated 111 articles he published between 1951 and 2005, with links to them and to all the articles that cited them.
Especially the Related Articles. My feeling, increasingly, is that Disaster Management, not that we have a category for it, is more Engineering than anything else, but with dashes of Health Sciences and Politics, and, for specific kinds of disasters, Physics and such.


What I'd hope to get from you, even if it were just as stub R-templates, would be some categories for toxic accidents. Plume analysis is probably too detailed here. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 05:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
See: [https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=kBHMSC4AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra MR Beychok]


:Howard, I added 5 links to your Related Links subpage. Three were to non-existing article as yet and one was to an existing article. If you think that Engineering, Politics and Health Science are involved, then you should add links to them in the "Parent topics" section of that subpage. Hope this helps, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 07:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Anthony.Sebastian|talk]]) 22:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
 
::Thanks; you gave me some of what I needed. One of the problems in the field is that so many catastrophic events that ''could'' be terrorism are described only in those terms. For chemical accidents, there's a good deal about spill confinement, but much less on pure industrial toxic releases.
 
::Duplicate posts aren't a bad thing in this contact. For large disasters, it's a fine idea to have a backup command post.  [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:35, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== Piquet ==
 
So basically you're saying the article proper may be complete enough, it's just subpages needed? [[User:Peter Jackson|Peter Jackson]] 17:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:Peter, as I said, I don't know enough about the game to comment upon whether or not the main article content needs work. But the subpages should definitely be created as I noted. Regards, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
==Will check approval with Matt/Chris==
I started out signing ToA and setting the approval code to 0, which is what I thought the instructions said to do.  The template started giving me error messages. What I suspect happened is that there is a change or bug; I set ToA and 0 before and it worked. The code, I suspect, is assuming that only the Approval editor sets to 0, but it's got an internal conflict.
 
Anyway, I have a message in to Chris.
 
==Other idea==
You did give me another idea. Would it be useful to have log and ln as articles, so you can link them whenever needed rather than explain?[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 19:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry, you've lost me. I don't understand what you are asking. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 19:59, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
::I noticed that you explained the natural log function in your text. Would it be useful to have an [[ln]] and a [[log]] article, which you could just embed it the text (i.e., [[ln]](x)), and anyone wanting the function definition could just click on it? [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:35, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:::Yup, that would be a good idea. Such an article is needed. Wikipedia has one that could serve as a start or as a guide. That is just one of the many, many "infrastructure" articles that are still needed. That is why I wrote [[Pressure]], [[Bar]], [[U.S. customary units]], [[Specific heat ratio]], [[Parts-per notation]], [[Vapor pressure]], [[Heat of combustion]], [[Meteorology]] and some others. So if you, or one of our mathematics authors, could write an article about log and ln, it would be most useful. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
::::First, the article looks great. Congratulations.
 
::::Now, I pause for hysterics, looking to the presumed heavens for my algebra I teacher and guidance counselor, who advised me against chemistry, and to stay in pure biology, because I could never handle the math. So, I would up in computer science (OK, one of my best friends in high school is now an IEEE Fellow in Digital Signal Processing), but I would up much more quantitative than anyone expected. High school mathematics teaching and I just didn't get along. Still, the thought of myself as a mathematics editor does cause giggles. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 23:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:::::I suggest to continue this discussion at [[Talk:Mathematics#Accessibility of mathematical notation across workgroups]]. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 10:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 
::::::I feel like an idiot ... because I just found that we already have an article on [[Logarithm]]s. It has a section on notational variants that I will revise somewhat and expand to make it clearer (in my opinion). [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 15:24, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== [[Meteorology]] ==
 
I am not an expert there either but I would suggest to ask some of [http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Special%3ASearch&ns2=1&search=meteorology&fulltext=Advanced+search these people] because they have indicated relevant interests on their user pages. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 08:31, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== Started article on [[autoclave]] ==
 
The need came to me when I was adding to some material on biological decontamination, and then it occurred to me I should generalize it. I've done a lot of microbiological work, but also home [[canning]], on which I'll start an article.
 
Thought I'd let you know about it in case you wanted to add anything about chemical process engineering use. There's no metadata on it as I need to find out if there is or is not a food sciences workgroup, or if cooking-related things go elsewhere. It probably will fall under Engineering, Health Sciences, something for cooking, Biology at least. It certainly could go under Chemical Engineering if you want it. I've just never worked with a chemical process one -- room-size hospital sterilizers yes. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== US units ==
 
Hi Milton, I looked at the US units article. It seems OK to me except for one thing. You don't make quite clear how the US base units are defined. I happen to know that the inch is '''defined''' as 2.54 cm and perhaps there are similar definitions for fluid ounce, etc.? It would be nice to have that in the article.--[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 10:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:Paul, I don't understand what you mean. The Length table in the article shows that 1 inch is equivalent to 2.54 cm. The Liquid Volume table shows that 1 fluid ounce is equivalent to 29.574 ml.
 
:I only intended the article to provide the equivalences between U.S. units and metric units. Researching the history of all the U.S. units and how they were originally defined would entail a lot of work that I don't believe is warranted. Is that what you meant? [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 19:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 
::There are some legal definitions of the U.S. units; I can look up some of that. I also have, in the past, looked up some of the history of those definitions (the inch used to be 1/39.37 m, and the change has made for some interesting problems in surveying).  Sometime in my copious free time I can look up those references again, and either edit the article directly, or dump them on the talk page. [[User:Anthony Argyriou|Anthony Argyriou]] 20:11, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks, Anthony. I really don't believe any history is needed ... but if you wish to write a history section, please feel free to do so. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 23:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== Your testimony? ==
 
Please [[CZ:Why I contribute to CZ|let us have it]]! --[[User:Larry Sanger|Larry Sanger]]
 
== [[Henry's law]] ==
 
I got Henry's law for you!  Keep them coming ;-) [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 02:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Cleaning up ==
 
Hi Milton, I read on the forum that you're going round cleaning up articles. I sometimes look back at my own stuff and see odd formulations (usually due to my lack of command of the English). Whenever you see some strange phrases in my articles you would do me a favor by correcting them. You don't offend me by that, ''au contraire'' as the [[Cajun]]s ([[Arcadian]]s) say.  --[[User:Paul Wormer|Paul Wormer]] 09:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Emergency operations ==
 
Thanks for the article and link. I linked it to [[radiological weapon]], and will do so for the other WMD articles, and possibly [[decontamination]]. [[Incident command system]] is a little more developed, but I'm now working on [[Federal Emergency Management Agency]] and will then do [[Department of Homeland Security]].  It's beginning to appear reasonable to create a [[civil defense]] article, dealing internationally with civilian protection, which was a far higher Soviet than U.S. prioity. [[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 00:42, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Thanks Milton==
[[Plato]] seems to be working now, with funny hat on!
[[User:Martin Cohen|Martin Cohen]] 10:35, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:18, 8 March 2015

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Milt

Milt was a great contributor to our project who invested a lot of his own knowledge and time in it; Citizendium is much poorer without him. He was highly trusted and respected, previously serving as the project's Treasurer and on the elected Management and Editorial Councils. However, we were a small part of a long life: Milt completed his degree in 1944, but his graduation was delayed while he saw action in Europe during the Second World War. Decades of experience in both chemical and environmental engineering followed, and he would become a well-published authority on various aspects of these fields, as recognized by his Fellowship of the American Institute of Chemical Engineers. His daughter also tells me he liked to apply his engineering approach to everyday life by collecting recipes and carefully replicating dishes he'd enjoyed. Milt stood firm against pseudoscience and other nonsense, as we at Citizendium can attest, and was a strong proponent of the science and the facts. I am sure I speak for those who knew him here when I say that we will miss him. John Stephenson (talk) 12:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

RIP Milt. He was a nice gent. Ro Thorpe (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
RIP Milt. Jérôme Delacroix (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC+1)
RIP Milt. You embodied the true spirit of Citizendium at its best.Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 04:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
RIP MIlt. As a collaborator and colleague, he will be missed. Russell D. Jones (talk) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Milt had an abundance of wisdom, passion and knowledge. He was with Citizendium from the early days, and embraced fully the spirit and idealism with which Citizendium was launched. He made an enormous contribution to the project. Gareth Leng (talk) 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I have missed Milt ever since he needed to leave the project, and I will always remember him fondly.Pat Palmer (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Milt's productivity as chemical engineer

Let us temper our sadness in the passing of our esteemed colleague with a celebration of his achievements in his field of endeavor. Google Scholar has tabulated 111 articles he published between 1951 and 2005, with links to them and to all the articles that cited them.

See: MR Beychok

Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 22:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

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