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This is the talk page of the References and Bibliographies item on the [[CZ:Wishlist]]. It is intended to host general discussion of the item. General discussion of the problem is also hosted on a [http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,2846.0.html Forum thread] Discussion of the [[CZ:Wishlist/Citations, References and Bibliographies/Problem Statement | Problem Statement]], [[CZ:Wishlist/Citations, References and Bibliographies/Solution | Solution]] and [[CZ:Wishlist/Citations, References and Bibliographies/Trial | Trial]] sub-activities should be recorded on the [[CZ Talk:Wishlist/Citations, References and Bibliographies/Problem Statement | Problem Statement talk]], [[CZ Talk:Wishlist/Citations, References and Bibliographies/Solution | Solutions talk]] and [[CZ Talk:Wishlist/Citations, References and Bibliographies/Trial | Trial talk]] sub=pages.
 
== Using webcite to cite web contents ==
 
An example is [http://ff.im/8Dxbc here]. --[[User:Daniel Mietchen|Daniel Mietchen]] 11:37, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 
== Definition of 'Reference' ==
 
I do not understand the definition of 'reference', or the distinction between 'reference' and 'citation'.  I would greatly appreciate seeing examples. [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 01:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 
: I chose this terminology somewhat arbitrarily in order to distinguish between the presentation of source information and their use within a text. So, a citation is something like: "Bunny, Bugs, Daffy Duck, Wiley Coyote, Yosemite Sam (1935). The Memoirs of Several Celluloid Masters. Toontown, Toonville: Toonville Press. ISBN 879-20345204589245."
 
: A reference to this citation would be: [Bunny1935] or [1], in many cases in superscript and the latter case occurring when the Bugs Bunny citation was the first in a Bibliography.
 
:: Thanks, that helps to fix my confusion. Would your last sentence remain correct if I substituted for "in a Bibliography" the words "in a ==References== section", where we initialize the ==References== section "<nowiki><references /></nowiki>" (for superscripted references to citations)? [[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] 02:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
 
::: Sure. The only downside of using "References" section is it may confuse references and citations. But, as I said, my choice was somewhat arbitrary. [[User:Dan Nessett|Dan Nessett]] 03:00, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

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This is the talk page of the References and Bibliographies item on the CZ:Wishlist. It is intended to host general discussion of the item. General discussion of the problem is also hosted on a Forum thread Discussion of the Problem Statement, Solution and Trial sub-activities should be recorded on the Problem Statement talk, Solutions talk and Trial talk sub=pages.

Using webcite to cite web contents

An example is here. --Daniel Mietchen 11:37, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Definition of 'Reference'

I do not understand the definition of 'reference', or the distinction between 'reference' and 'citation'. I would greatly appreciate seeing examples. Anthony.Sebastian 01:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I chose this terminology somewhat arbitrarily in order to distinguish between the presentation of source information and their use within a text. So, a citation is something like: "Bunny, Bugs, Daffy Duck, Wiley Coyote, Yosemite Sam (1935). The Memoirs of Several Celluloid Masters. Toontown, Toonville: Toonville Press. ISBN 879-20345204589245."
A reference to this citation would be: [Bunny1935] or [1], in many cases in superscript and the latter case occurring when the Bugs Bunny citation was the first in a Bibliography.
Thanks, that helps to fix my confusion. Would your last sentence remain correct if I substituted for "in a Bibliography" the words "in a ==References== section", where we initialize the ==References== section "<references />" (for superscripted references to citations)? Anthony.Sebastian 02:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Sure. The only downside of using "References" section is it may confuse references and citations. But, as I said, my choice was somewhat arbitrary. Dan Nessett 03:00, 2 October 2009 (UTC)