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writing it rough, outline should be self-evident. This is aimed to be a guide for parents that is accurate enough for a pediatrician to use as a reference. [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 15:31, 14 April 2007 (CDT) | writing it rough, outline should be self-evident. This is aimed to be a guide for parents that is accurate enough for a pediatrician to use as a reference. [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 15:31, 14 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
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I think this should be just a description of what the neonate starts off with, any mention of development should be in the subsequent sections. Another thought is that details such as the size of the brain/skull be included in a full Newborn article, not as part of this one. | I think this should be just a description of what the neonate starts off with, any mention of development should be in the subsequent sections. Another thought is that details such as the size of the brain/skull be included in a full Newborn article, not as part of this one. | ||
[[User:Christo_Muller|Christo Muller]] [[User_talk:Christo_Muller|(Talk)]] 17:59, 25 April 2007 (CDT) | [[User:Christo_Muller|Christo Muller]] [[User_talk:Christo_Muller|(Talk)]] 17:59, 25 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
::The details will probabably end up there. If you don't mind, what I'd like to do is get the sections as outlined actually written, and then split off articles and smooth out the whole. It's really a draft. [[User:Nancy Sculerati|Nancy Sculerati]] 20:18, 25 April 2007 (CDT) |
Latest revision as of 17:34, 3 November 2007
writing it rough, outline should be self-evident. This is aimed to be a guide for parents that is accurate enough for a pediatrician to use as a reference. Nancy Sculerati 15:31, 14 April 2007 (CDT)
Pelvic size
To address one of the concerns raised by Nancy on my talk page, (expressing the idea of the mother's narrow pelvic size when giving birth), I suggest the following change. In this sentence:
- That means that big headed babies are born to mothers with pelvic structures adapted to walking upright, and if both mother and baby are to survive the birth process, that means the baby's brain is not fully developed in size — or complexity — at birth.
I suggest inserting "the relatively narrow" before "pelvic structures", to give:
- That means that big-headed babies are born to mothers with the relatively narrow pelvic structures adapted for walking upright, and if both mother and baby are to survive the birth process, that means the baby's brain is not fully developed in size — or complexity — at birth.
(Also inserting a hyphen in "big-headed" and changing "adapted to" to "adapted for".) I was going to also suggest moving the paragraph beginning "Even with the relatively small head diameter of the newborn," to before the previous paragraph, to move it closer to the mention of pelvic opening size, but I see that it flows very nicely into the paragraph after it, so that would probably not be a good idea. --Catherine Woodgold 15:18, 15 April 2007 (CDT)
Catherine, I think your change may be excellent, but perhaps we can hold off till more of the article gets written, and then -depending on overall length, I'd appreciate your input (and others) from start to finish-did put "relatively" in there. Nancy Sculerati 20:53, 16 April 2007 (CDT)
References - with notes
Birth size-weight-composition
1)Bernstein I. Fetal body composition. Current Opinion in Clinical Nutrition & Metabolic Care. 8(6):613-7, 2005 Nov. UI: 16205461
"Under conditions of fetal undergrowth, identified as fetal growth restriction (most commonly defined when estimated fetal weights or birth weights are below some preset percentile (third, fifth or 10th) of standardized population specific norms), the perinatal mortality rate is 6–10 times greater than that for a normally grown population, 120 per 1000 for all cases of growth restriction and 60–80 per 1000 if anomalous infants are excluded [2]. As many as 40% of all stillborns are growth restricted, including 53% of preterm stillbirths and 26% of term stillbirths [3]. Additional risks of poor fetal growth include the neonatal complications of respiratory distress syndrome, hypoglycemia, hypocalcemia, hyperphosphatemia, polycythemia, hyponatremia and hypothermia [4–7]."..."Fetal overgrowth is variably characterized as either fetal macrosomia (estimated fetal weight or birth weight greater than 4 or 4.5 kg) or large for gestational age where weight exceeds the 90th percentile for population-based norms. The primary perinatal risks of fetal overgrowth include difficult deliveries, with an increased risk for both shoulder dystocia and Cesarean sections and the traumatic injuries that can result form these dystocias [8]. There is also an increased risk of metabolic abnormalities in macrosomic neonates. The neonatal metabolic risks include neonatal hypoglycemia, polycythemia, hyperbilirubinemia and disorders of calcium metabolism [9]."..."Despite these risks the majority of individual fetuses whose weight is either under or over the defined limits of normal have uncomplicated antenatal, intrapartum and neonatal courses. This association of the significant health consequences for abnormal growth and the poor predictive value of fetal weight for these complications has led to a search for alternative markers of fetal growth abnormality beyond estimates of fetal weight to try and improve the prediction of perinatal risk."..."Suggestions that estimates of fetal body composition might improve the prediction of specific perinatal risks arise from both the fetal undergrowth and overgrowth literature. The ponderal index was first described by Rohrer in 1921 as an index of corpulence [10]. This index of neonatal size (weight/length3) appears to accurately describe the nutritional state of the neonate."...Galan et al. [29], employing measures of the proximal extremities, has shown that the fetal growth restriction observed at altitude results from disproportionate reductions in fat mass and Padoan et al. [30•] have demonstrated that the fat mass compartment is disproportionately reduced in growth-restricted fetuses defined by weight.
2) Gluckman PD. Hanson MA. Living with the past: evolution, development, and patterns of disease. Science. 305(5691):1733-6, 2004 Sep 17. UI: 15375258
"In evaluating the relative role of genetic and environmental factors, it is useful to note that birth size has only a small genetic component and primarily reflects the quality of the intrauterine environment."
"There are now many epidemiological studies (1-3) relating impaired fetal growth (deduced from birth weight or body proportions) to an increased incidence of cardiovascular disease or type 2 diabetes mellitus (T2D) or their precursors: dyslipidemia, impaired glucose tolerance, or vascular endothelial dysfunction. Disease risk is higher in those born smaller who become relatively obese as adolescents or adults (1). Interpretation of these studies has led to debate about the magnitude of the effect (4), although the only published estimate based upon a long-term Finnish cohort (3) suggests it to be substantial. Prospective clinical studies on children born small also provide support for the concept (6, 7)."...There have been several models proposed to explain the changing demography of "life-style" diseases such as T2D. The "thrifty genotype" concept (57) proposed that populations have been selected for alleles favoring insulin resistance. Such "thrifty genes" confer advantage in a poor food/high energy expenditure environment by reducing glucose uptake and limiting body growth. When individuals of this genotype encounter an environment of plentiful food/low energy expenditure, they are at risk of developing T2D and the metabolic syndrome (58). So although selection for these genes enabled our ancestors to survive as hunter-gatherers, they put modern humans at greater risk of disease, especially as our longevity increases. Because insulin is a fetal growth factor, selection for such genes might also induce lower birth weight (5). For example, mutation in the glucokinase gene produces reduced fetal growth and later insulin resistance independently (59).
Brain development
Kapellou O, Counsell SJ, Kennea N, Dyet L, Saeed N, et al.: Abnormal Cortical Development after Premature Birth Shown by Altered Allometric Scaling of Brain Growth PLoS Medicine Vol. 3, No. 8, e265 doi:10.1371/journal.pmed.0030265http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371%2Fjournal.pmed.0030265
We analyzed 274 magnetic resonance images that recorded brain growth from 23 to 48 wk of gestation in 113 extremely preterm infants born at 22 to 29 wk of gestation, 63 of whom underwent neurodevelopmental assessment at a median age of 2 y. Cortical surface area was related to cerebral volume by a scaling law with an exponent of 1.29 (95% confidence interval, 1.25–1.33), which was proportional to later neurodevelopmental impairment. Increasing prematurity and male gender were associated with a lower scaling exponent (p < 0.0001) independent of intrauterine or postnatal somatic growth.
great figure to import: serial MRI of female premie-> "fullterm" cortex It's Figure 2 [1] caption:Serial MR Imaging of Brain Growth in a Normal Female Preterm Infant When this infant was born at 25 weeks gestational age she weighed 710 g. The images show slices through the brain at the mid-ventricular level and at the level of the centrum semiovale from six of the eight MR images obtained between 26 and 39 wk gestational age; images obtained at 30 and 38 weeks are omitted for graphical clarity. Measured values for cerebral volume (triangles) and cortical surface area (circles) are related to relevant image pairs by straight lines. The insert displays a scatter plot in log-log coordinates of cortical surface area and cerebral volume (diamonds), showing a linear relationship that indicates power law scaling of cortical surface area relative to cerebral volume in this individual.
Note on gestational age
The term gestational age cannot be used differently by obstetricians and pediatricians, one cannot simply rewrite, or ignore, decades of general medical and obstetric writing. In obstetrics there are two ways that are used to define gestational age for clinical purposes: by date of LMP, and by repeated early ultrasound measurements. These two "ages" are the same; a baby (normally conceived in a woman with an average menstrual period) reported to be 10 weeks by CRL, is 10 weeks by LMP. If she was implanted by IVF 8 weeks before (and growth was normal), she would still be reported as "10 weeks" by ultrasound examination (not 8 weeks). The fundal height 10 weeks later would correspond to 20 weeks gestational age, even though we know that IVF was 18 weeks before. In the absence of an internationally agreed upon "new" definition, the term "gestational age" has to be interpreted in its historical sense, else confusion would be rife.
So: "Gestational age", as reported in ultrasound exams, described in clinical training material (e.g. fundal height), and reported for post-natal age assessments (e.g. Ballard) is the "Post-menstrual age", dated by the first day of the mother's last menstrual period. The correlations between crown-rump length, BPD, fetal mass etc, and gestational age are all reported by this convention - not by "Post conceptional age", which can be known for sure in cases of in vitro fertilisation, but otherwise rarely. The "Corrected gestational age" is the (post menstrual) gestational age at birth plus the weeks after birth. --Christo Muller (Talk) 09:14, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
So, fix it, Christo, please. Nancy Sculerati 09:18, 21 April 2007 (CDT) After writing that request, I realized this is not going to be quite so easy. The idea of this article is to be accurate, but also to be easily understandable to a reasonably bright and reasonably educated parent who is not a health science professional. So, perhaps we can come up with words that are not (as I see my draft is at this time) grossly inaccurate (sorry for my mistakes), but are also understandable intuitively without requiring a medical education. Meanwhile, I think we should have an article- with a link, to Gestational age, where the whole business is explained out - including the history of the use of the term. I think it is important that the parent of a child who was premature (or, although we have not got there yet, has recovered from a major illness or trauma) realizes that developmental milestones are normally adjusted under these circumstances, and that the child may not be abnormally developmental delayed when these factors are calculated into the evaluation of growth and development. Can you help me with that, here? In wording? Nancy Sculerati 09:44, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
- I got stuck with this gestational age problem when I was helping with writing a PhD about ultrasonography of the placenta, and realised how persons seem to choose the dating which suits their article/talk best - quietly leaving out the specifics sometimes artificially enhances the results. Anyway, I agree with Gestational age as a stand-alone article. And I shall take on the section(s) on describing the neonate - normal, small large, growth retarded - as basic outlines, if you want to get on with development as such. Incidentally, I have started drafting some thoughts on dysmenorrhoea - pain pops up in all places - which should get some of our non-health sciences ladies interested too, I hope. Christo Muller (Talk) 17:12, 21 April 2007 (CDT)
Integrate Newborn information into one section
May I suggest we integrate the stuff on the newborn into a single section? The following is a basic outline of what I think should be included in the Newborns section. It may prove to be too much for this article, which I see as mainly about how the infant develops in the first year, not about fine details of how the newborn adapts to extrauterine life, or about how to examine a newborn - although I think a short description of what the doctor is doing when she examines the newborn could be given. What I thought to do is summarise the main points, and refer the whole section to a more detailed article. Articles I see that would be related to this section: Newborn, Gestational age, Examination of the newborn, Congenital abnormalities. Others? The outline of the newborn section I suggest is:
- The newborn.
- Gestational age.
- The concepts of full-term, pre- and post-mature, small for gestational age, large for GA.
- Physical characteristics
- Subheadings or well crafted paragraphs: Skin. Head and associated structures and special sense organs, neck, chest, abdomen, back, limbs.
- Physiology
- Subheadings or well crafted paragraphs: Respiratory, Cardiovascular, neurological (incl special senses, movements and reflexes), gastrointestinal, urogenital. Homeostatic characteristics.
- Gestational age.
I think this should be just a description of what the neonate starts off with, any mention of development should be in the subsequent sections. Another thought is that details such as the size of the brain/skull be included in a full Newborn article, not as part of this one. Christo Muller (Talk) 17:59, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
- The details will probabably end up there. If you don't mind, what I'd like to do is get the sections as outlined actually written, and then split off articles and smooth out the whole. It's really a draft. Nancy Sculerati 20:18, 25 April 2007 (CDT)