User talk:Milton Beychok: Difference between revisions

From Citizendium
Jump to navigation Jump to search
imported>Peter Schmitt
(→‎Help:Index/Map: I am with Milt on this -- but we shall see)
imported>Pat Palmer
(→‎Milt: RIP Milt)
 
(334 intermediate revisions by 40 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Archive box|auto=long|box-width=30em}}
{{Archive box|auto=long|box-width=30em}}
{{Usertime-text|Milt}}{{Template:Utc|-7 }}<br><BR><BR><BR><BR>
{{Usertime-text|Milt}}{{Template:Utc|-8 }}<br><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
==Milt==
Milt was a great contributor to our project who invested a lot of his own knowledge and time in it; Citizendium is much poorer without him. He was highly trusted and respected, previously serving as the project's Treasurer and on the elected Management and Editorial Councils. However, we were a small part of a long life: Milt completed his degree in 1944, but his graduation was delayed while he saw action in Europe during the Second World War. Decades of experience in both chemical and environmental engineering followed, and he would become a well-published authority on various aspects of these fields, as recognized by his Fellowship of the American Institute of Chemical Engineers. His daughter also tells me he liked to apply his engineering approach to everyday life by collecting recipes and carefully replicating dishes he'd enjoyed. Milt stood firm against pseudoscience and other nonsense, as we at Citizendium can attest, and was a strong proponent of the science and the facts. I am sure I speak for those who knew him here when I say that we will miss him. [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] ([[User talk:John Stephenson|talk]]) 12:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
:RIP Milt. He was a nice gent. [[User:Ro Thorpe|Ro Thorpe]] ([[User talk:Ro Thorpe|talk]]) 14:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
:RIP Milt.  [[User:JeromeDelacroix|Jérôme Delacroix]] ([[User talk:JeromeDelacroix|talk]]) 18:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC+1)
:RIP Milt. You embodied the true spirit of Citizendium at its best.[[User:Roger A. Lohmann|Roger A. Lohmann]] ([[User talk:Roger A. Lohmann|talk]]) 04:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
:RIP MIlt. As a collaborator and colleague, he will be missed. [[User:Russell D. Jones|Russell D. Jones]] ([[User talk:Russell D. Jones|talk]]) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


==Just created Archive 9==
Milt had an abundance of wisdom, passion and knowledge. He was with Citizendium from the early days, and embraced fully the spirit and idealism with which Citizendium was launched. He made an enormous contribution to the project. [[User:Gareth Leng|Gareth Leng]] ([[User talk:Gareth Leng|talk]]) 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
That's why this page is empty at the moment. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 20:30, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


== Thanks!==
I have missed Milt ever since he needed to leave the project, and I will always remember him fondly.[[User:Pat Palmer|Pat Palmer]] ([[User talk:Pat Palmer|talk]]) 01:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
I moved the exlinks to the exlink page and corrected the bad link. Thanks for pointing that out. I'm sure if I did the exlinks right so please check. I used the * to do the line breaks. Is that what you do here?


Thanks! [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 05:26, 26 July 2010 (UTC)Mary Ash
== Milt's productivity as  chemical engineer ==


:Mary, you used the * correctly on the Related Links subpage ... but I had to correct the format of the hyperlinks to online websites. One does '''not''' simply write [url]. Instead, the url is followed by single space and then a title for that website item. For example, '''<nowiki>[http://adage.com/century/icon04.html]</nowiki>''' was corrected to this '''<nowiki>[http://adage.com/century/icon04.html Betty Crocker]</nowiki>''' which then displays simply as [http://adage.com/century/icon04.html Betty Crocker].
Let us temper our sadness in the passing of our esteemed colleague with a celebration of his achievements in his field of endeavor. Google Scholar has tabulated 111 articles he published between 1951 and 2005, with links to them and to all the articles that cited them.


:Also, once again, you do not need to sign your name after the four tildes because the tildes sign your name for you and the result is that your name appears twice in your signature (just look at your above signature). Please remember, all you do is sign with four tildes.[[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 06:01, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
See: [https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=kBHMSC4AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=sra MR Beychok]


::Thanks for letting me know about the tildes. I will refrain from signing. I am used to do doing it that way so it will take a bit of rethinking. :-) I also followed your lead on the exlinks if you check the newest addition. Thanks for your help.
[[User:Anthony.Sebastian|Anthony.Sebastian]] ([[User talk:Anthony.Sebastian|talk]]) 22:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
::[[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 14:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
== Photo ==
This what I posted on my talk page. Lighten up fellas. The name I submitted sure looked like a REAL name to me and let it go at that. It is a lovely photo that I used on my wikiHow account and decided to move over here. The photo came from Flickr and I liked it. Do YOU make time to share anything positive here, or are are you all sitting around waiting to "pounce" on the newbies? I did add the hyperlink showing where the image was found so anyone could search it out. Finally, I did some research and indeed this is a dying wiki. I wonder why... Mary Ash 16:45, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
== Thanks for Serving ==
Thanks for serving our country in her time of need. Hubby was in similar circumstances except it was Vietnam. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 23:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== Thanks ==
 
Thank you very much for approving my application, and for the suggestion to expand my bio. I am currently working on this as my first editorial duty :). Thank you again, and I look forward to many happy hours working on this great compendium! [[User:Rachael Cantrell|Rachael Cantrell]] 18:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== Photo Attribution ==
This morning, after feeling so much better, I realized why I was doing this. Any work done for hire and any work paid for by the US Government, or by an employee of the US Government, is considered work for hire or public domain. See:  http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.pdf Attribution automatically goes to the agency that paid for the work and since we all paid for the federal government photo it's considered public domain. That means the Mack article and the Osprey article were correctly attributed by me. It would be best to change the current attributions to the Harvard Press Office and US Government for those photos as they are now incorrect. It is nice to credit the photographer, if known, but the correct and presumably legal attribution goes to the agencies involved. I fulfilled my ethical and professional responsibility by notifying Citizendium of their error. [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 15:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:If you will look at the photo of Mack that you uploaded, the photo itself has attribution to Harvard Press at the bottom (in very small print). As for the the V-22 Osprey photo you uploaded, the current credit line (which I added as required by CZ) has both the U.S. Navy (which is the government agency) and their photographer's name (who took the photo).  So all is well. Thanks for your comment and concern. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 17:51, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
::If you check the file history for the Osprey the attribution is incorrect. Credit goes to the U.S. Government not the author as it is public domain and work for hire photo. See: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki?title=Image%3AOsprey.png&diff=100693841&oldid=100693698 [[User:Mary Ash|Mary Ash]] 18:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
::: Wrong. James Darcy is in fact the author of the work and legally entitled to attribution. If you check the copyright line ([[Template:Osprey.png/credit]]) you will see that both are credited. --[[User:Chris Key|Chris Key]] 18:11, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== [[Petroleum naphtha]] ==
 
It's Approved!  Thanks for the reminder ;) [[User:D. Matt Innis|D. Matt Innis]] 18:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== How to archive talk pages ==
 
Looks terrific, Milt!  A lot of tedious work.  I've always done it by trial and error and simply copying previous ones.  I'll try to find your new instructions the next time I do one!  Thanks! [[User:Hayford Peirce|Hayford Peirce]] 19:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== Secure confident people encourage not discourage ==
(This comment was moved to Archive 9 of this Talk page)
 
== [[:Image:Russian Blue kitten.jpg]] ==
 
Hi Milt. You requested that [[:Image:Russian Blue kitten.jpg]] be deleted. Flor de Azur is the name of the Company that produced the photos [http://www.flordeazur.com/RussianBlue_Main.html] and holds the copyright. We have plenty of other photos with an 'unknown' author, and as long as the copyright holder is given we always seem to be okay with this. Are you sure it should be deleted? --[[User:Chris Key|Chris Key]] 09:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:Chris, before I requested speedy deletion, I spent about 30 minutes surfing that company's website (including their photo gallery) and could not find that specific photo of a kitten ... so it is hard for me to convince myself that the company is truly the copyright owner of that particular photo.
 
:Meanwhile, I emailed Franziska Gabriela Waldmann, presumably the copyright owner of the original photo (Russian_Blue_001.gif) to confirm that she is the copyright owner and that she agrees to our using the photo and crediting her as the copyright owner. If she agrees, then I was going to re-instate that photo for use with the [[Russian Blue]] article. (P.S.: I asked Mary to send the email on the article's  talk page and she did not respond. Instead, she uploaded the photo of the kitten.)
 
:As for the photo of the kitten, I suggest that you email Flor de Azur and confirm that they are indeed the copyright owners. When I send such emails (and I have done so with many photos  that I uploaded), I insert a copy of the photo in my email. If they confirm that the photo is theirs, then I would have no objections to letting it remain uploaded. If they do not confirm or state that they don't want us to use it, then I would like to see it deleted as I requested.
 
:Chris, I have uploaded about 270 images and the above procedure is that which I have imposed upon myself before I upload pictures from Wikimedia Commons. Whenever a company has not responded to my requests for permission or has responded negatively, I did not upload the image. If you like, I could send you a copy of my "form letter" that I use.
 
:See [[CZ:Introduction to CZ for Wikipedians#Images]] and also [[CZ:Media Assets Workgroup/Example permission request letters]]. These are what guided me when I first joined CZ. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 11:37, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:: No problem, I am happy to go with your judgement on this. I have deleted the photo and left a note on Mary's talk page asking her to obtain permission before re-uploading it. --[[User:Chris Key|Chris Key]] 18:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== Help:Index/Map ==
 
I think it would be best to direct people to [[Help:Index]] rather than [[Help:Index/Map]]. The former has been developed to be easy to use, especially for new starters, and the latter is linked to from the main [[Help:Index]] page. --[[User:Chris Key|Chris Key]] 20:46, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:Thanks, Chris. To be candid, I believe that [[Help:index/Map]] provides a better overall view of all the help articles than does [[Help:Index]]. I assume you were referring to my welcome message for Nicole Willson. In the future, I will try to remember to point newcomers to both. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 21:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:: As I said in the forum, I also prefer the index map -- there it is much easier to search for the topic needed. But others may think differently. We shall see what becomes more popular. And we certainly can have both. --[[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 23:34, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:18, 8 March 2015

Hourglass drawing.svg Where Milt lives it is approximately: 15:17





Milt

Milt was a great contributor to our project who invested a lot of his own knowledge and time in it; Citizendium is much poorer without him. He was highly trusted and respected, previously serving as the project's Treasurer and on the elected Management and Editorial Councils. However, we were a small part of a long life: Milt completed his degree in 1944, but his graduation was delayed while he saw action in Europe during the Second World War. Decades of experience in both chemical and environmental engineering followed, and he would become a well-published authority on various aspects of these fields, as recognized by his Fellowship of the American Institute of Chemical Engineers. His daughter also tells me he liked to apply his engineering approach to everyday life by collecting recipes and carefully replicating dishes he'd enjoyed. Milt stood firm against pseudoscience and other nonsense, as we at Citizendium can attest, and was a strong proponent of the science and the facts. I am sure I speak for those who knew him here when I say that we will miss him. John Stephenson (talk) 12:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

RIP Milt. He was a nice gent. Ro Thorpe (talk) 14:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
RIP Milt. Jérôme Delacroix (talk) 18:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC+1)
RIP Milt. You embodied the true spirit of Citizendium at its best.Roger A. Lohmann (talk) 04:11, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
RIP MIlt. As a collaborator and colleague, he will be missed. Russell D. Jones (talk) 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Milt had an abundance of wisdom, passion and knowledge. He was with Citizendium from the early days, and embraced fully the spirit and idealism with which Citizendium was launched. He made an enormous contribution to the project. Gareth Leng (talk) 21:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I have missed Milt ever since he needed to leave the project, and I will always remember him fondly.Pat Palmer (talk) 01:18, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Milt's productivity as chemical engineer

Let us temper our sadness in the passing of our esteemed colleague with a celebration of his achievements in his field of endeavor. Google Scholar has tabulated 111 articles he published between 1951 and 2005, with links to them and to all the articles that cited them.

See: MR Beychok

Anthony.Sebastian (talk) 22:22, 28 February 2015 (UTC)