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== Revised lede to incorporate many of the suggestions by Anthony Sebastian. ==
== Elements ==


Anthony, I had already considered using the word "portmanteau" to describe "smog" ( as was done in Wikipedia's smog article ) but decided it was too "fancy". Therefore, I chose to describe it as a "combination" word, which is simple and self-explanatory.
Good stuff Milton, that will be a useful page. [[User:David Finn|David Finn]] 08:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 
Other than that, I believe I have incorporated your suggestions in my re-write of the lede while still retaining the technical integrity of the wording. For example, it is not the polluted air that produces the precursors ... they are emitted into the air by vehicles and industrial activities. Thanks much, [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 04:40, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 
== First comments ==
 
New York looks rather pretty in that picture. Designer smog?
 
:Maybe the photographer used a color filter or maybe that is what it really looked like at that moment in time. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:21, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 
Personal taste, but I hate "so-called"; it tends to imply doubt of the term. Certainly, there was a 1952 event in London.
 
:Done. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:21, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 
The first paragraph of  "photochemical smog" doesn't seem to be about photochemical smog. Move it up to the previous section, and observe there's the original kind, but most now is photochemical, as a transition. Consider subheads in this section, perhaps "precursors" and "simplified reactions".
 
:I think the first paragraph of  "photochemical smog" is okay where it is ...but let me think about it a bit. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:21, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 
:Added the subheads for "precursors" and "simplified reactions", but a bit more wordy. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 
Under "areas affected", make the headings consistent at country level. Haven't there been significant British incidents besides London? Birmingham vaguely comes to mind.
 
:Country level headings done. There probably have been other significant British incidents. Perhaps others can add them after I upload the article into the article namespace. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:21, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 
In the US, while LA is obviously the poster child, my informal impression is that Denver is worth mentioning, along with its particular topography. I'd be interested in hearing your opinion on their banning of wood-burning fireplaces. What about Pittsburgh before the industries cleaned up? Was that smog or some other air pollutant?
 
:As for Denver and Pittsburgh, again perhaps others can add them after I upload the article into the article namespace. As for banning wood-burning fireplaces, I have no opinion. [[User:Milton Beychok|Milton Beychok]] 22:21, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 
As far as my birthplace of northern New Jersey, I'm not sure we called it smog, or necessarily air...just the burning tires, refinery waste, and Pig Farms of Secaucus, all fermenting over the Jersey Meadows. I remember holding my ground when someone, in a college lab, smashed a 5-pint bottle of butyric acid, and the professor said "you're from New Jersey, aren't you?"  (turns out that it cleans up nicely with a slurry of activated charcoal in cupric sulfate solution).
 
--[[User:Howard C. Berkowitz|Howard C. Berkowitz]] 20:29, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

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Good stuff Milton, that will be a useful page. David Finn 08:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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