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: (The redirect is not final, "derivative" should have its own page, as should have "derivation".)
: (The redirect is not final, "derivative" should have its own page, as should have "derivation".)
: [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 00:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
: [[User:Peter Schmitt|Peter Schmitt]] 00:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::OK, I see your point. But as the article reads now, it only confuses the reader further as to the difference between the derivative and the d.q. [[User:Johan A. Förberg|Johan A. Förberg]] 23:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

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Derivative

Peter, could you please explain why you prefer the title "differential quotient"? I haven't studied mathematics in English for some time, but I still feel that "derivative" is the more common name. Formally, the derivative should be the limit of the differential quotient as h approaches zero, but in my mind they are not the same concept. Johan A. Förberg 22:08, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I see a subtle difference:
  • The differential quotient of f at x is the limit of the difference quotients at x (only one particular point considered),
  • while the derivative of f is the function with values equal to the differential quotient (the full dominion of the function is considered).
(The redirect is not final, "derivative" should have its own page, as should have "derivation".)
Peter Schmitt 00:54, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
OK, I see your point. But as the article reads now, it only confuses the reader further as to the difference between the derivative and the d.q. Johan A. Förberg 23:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)