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I've moved this page for the following reasons. Firstly, I saw it as inevitable that it would be moved eventually, because there are several other Scarboroughs in the world, and more particularly there was a big row about this on Wikipedia. Secondly, we have articles like [[Boston, Lincolnshire]] already. However, I think the basic page [[Scarborough]] should redirect here, because: (1) this is the original Scarborough; (2) it is the one with significant history (going back, it is said, about 900-1000 years); (3) it is the one Simon and Garfunkel were referencing(!); (3) the one in Toronto is bigger but is not a town/city in its own right; (4) it is arguably most famous - at least I found that in a Google search, many references were to Scarborough, North Yorkshire (5/10 today) - and several even on Google.ca (4/10). Let's avoid the messy compromise on Wikipedia (having [[Scarborough]] as a disambiguation page but with a note saying "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scarborough&oldid=215582160 Given without context, Scarborough most likely refers to Scarborough, North Yorkshire, England.]" [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 06:16, 6 June 2008 (CDT)
I've moved this page for the following reasons. Firstly, I saw it as inevitable that it would be moved eventually, because there are several other Scarboroughs in the world, and more particularly there was a big row about this on Wikipedia. Secondly, we have articles like [[Boston, Lincolnshire]] already. However, I think the basic page [[Scarborough]] should redirect here, because: (1) this is the original Scarborough; (2) it is the one with significant history (going back, it is said, about 900-1000 years); (3) it is the one Simon and Garfunkel were referencing(!); (3) the one in Toronto is bigger but is not a town/city in its own right; (4) it is arguably most famous - at least I found that in a Google search, many references were to Scarborough, North Yorkshire (5/10 today) - and several even on Google.ca (4/10). Let's avoid the messy compromise on Wikipedia (having [[Scarborough]] as a disambiguation page but with a note saying "[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Scarborough&oldid=215582160 Given without context, Scarborough most likely refers to Scarborough, North Yorkshire, England.]" [[User:John Stephenson|John Stephenson]] 06:16, 6 June 2008 (CDT)
: Hey, as long as the thing at the base name ([[Scarborough]], in this case) is a redirect, so we can find links to ambiguous names, I don't generally care much whether it's set to point at the disambiguation page ([[Scarborough (disambiguation)]]), or to one particular meaning (here). I'll leave it up to others to see if they agree with your choice... :-) [[User:J. Noel Chiappa|J. Noel Chiappa]] 10:02, 6 June 2008 (CDT)

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 Definition Seaside resort, fishing port and former spa town on the east coast of North Yorkshire, England; once an important mediaeval port and site of a major royal castle (population about 52,000). [d] [e]
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I've moved this page for the following reasons. Firstly, I saw it as inevitable that it would be moved eventually, because there are several other Scarboroughs in the world, and more particularly there was a big row about this on Wikipedia. Secondly, we have articles like Boston, Lincolnshire already. However, I think the basic page Scarborough should redirect here, because: (1) this is the original Scarborough; (2) it is the one with significant history (going back, it is said, about 900-1000 years); (3) it is the one Simon and Garfunkel were referencing(!); (3) the one in Toronto is bigger but is not a town/city in its own right; (4) it is arguably most famous - at least I found that in a Google search, many references were to Scarborough, North Yorkshire (5/10 today) - and several even on Google.ca (4/10). Let's avoid the messy compromise on Wikipedia (having Scarborough as a disambiguation page but with a note saying "Given without context, Scarborough most likely refers to Scarborough, North Yorkshire, England." John Stephenson 06:16, 6 June 2008 (CDT)

Hey, as long as the thing at the base name (Scarborough, in this case) is a redirect, so we can find links to ambiguous names, I don't generally care much whether it's set to point at the disambiguation page (Scarborough (disambiguation)), or to one particular meaning (here). I'll leave it up to others to see if they agree with your choice... :-) J. Noel Chiappa 10:02, 6 June 2008 (CDT)