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:I think you should combine the country and island articles (since it's a bit arbitrary to hive off the twiddly bits of the Irish Archipelago like ''Sceilig Mhichíl'', Rathlin, Blasket, Saltee, Aran, etc, islands) and you should be able to get to at least 1731 before serious dissension occurs. Obviously by the third decade of the nineteenth century you will need at least two articles to discuss the various state entities. Despite the recent shortening of the Dublin state entity's official title, I am sure you will be able to distinguish the articles about the whole island country of Ireland (even Dr Paisley replied that he was unambiguously an Irishman when I asked him in 1993) from those articles dealing with the various states. | :I think you should combine the country and island articles (since it's a bit arbitrary to hive off the twiddly bits of the Irish Archipelago like ''Sceilig Mhichíl'', Rathlin, Blasket, Saltee, Aran, etc, islands) and you should be able to get to at least 1731 before serious dissension occurs. Obviously by the third decade of the nineteenth century you will need at least two articles to discuss the various state entities. Despite the recent shortening of the Dublin state entity's official title, I am sure you will be able to distinguish the articles about the whole island country of Ireland (even Dr Paisley replied that he was unambiguously an Irishman when I asked him in 1993) from those articles dealing with the various states. | ||
:Do you intend to include the Irish kingdoms across the water (like Strathclyde) in your ancient history? [[User:W. Frank|W. Frank]] 09:56, 25 April 2007 (CDT) | :Do you intend to include the Irish kingdoms across the water (like Strathclyde) in your ancient history? [[User:W. Frank|W. Frank]] 09:56, 25 April 2007 (CDT) | ||
==Naming Irish articles== | |||
Editor in Chief, Larry Sanger just used the edit summary of "(Rendering anticipated names consistent with CZ:Naming Conventions)" when changing the title of "Ireland, Republic of" to "Republic of Ireland" and "Ireland, Island of" to "Ireland (island). | |||
However, I think he is wrong on one reading of the reference he provided: | |||
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Naming_Conventions#Typographical_and_stylistic_rules | |||
which currently emboldens: "'''put keywords first'''" | |||
Since we can safely envision more than three Ireland articles developing over the course of time I would suggest that this encourages a series such as: | |||
Ireland, Republic of | |||
Ireland, Southern (interim state in 1922) | |||
Ireland, Rugby in | |||
Ireland, prehistory | |||
Ireland, missionaries from | |||
Ireland, writers from | |||
Ireland, traditional sports | |||
Revision as of 17:17, 25 April 2007
Disambiguation page
I'm currently working on articles for Ireland (the country) and Ireland (the island) (drafts on my sandbox, links from my userpage). I may also get started on Northern Ireland. The general intention, in order to avoid repetition, would be to keep things like geography, geology, climate, flora and fauna, etc., on the Ireland (the island) article - possibly also the ancient history. Then the country article(s) would contain politics, economy, culture, (recent) history, etc.
Note that the actual article titles haven't been decided upon yet. To forestall the endless circular arguments found elsewhere, my intention would be to have the issue discussed and agreed before actually setting up the articles proper. Anton Sweeney 08:27, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
- Good thinking, Anton.
- I think you should combine the country and island articles (since it's a bit arbitrary to hive off the twiddly bits of the Irish Archipelago like Sceilig Mhichíl, Rathlin, Blasket, Saltee, Aran, etc, islands) and you should be able to get to at least 1731 before serious dissension occurs. Obviously by the third decade of the nineteenth century you will need at least two articles to discuss the various state entities. Despite the recent shortening of the Dublin state entity's official title, I am sure you will be able to distinguish the articles about the whole island country of Ireland (even Dr Paisley replied that he was unambiguously an Irishman when I asked him in 1993) from those articles dealing with the various states.
- Do you intend to include the Irish kingdoms across the water (like Strathclyde) in your ancient history? W. Frank 09:56, 25 April 2007 (CDT)
Naming Irish articles
Editor in Chief, Larry Sanger just used the edit summary of "(Rendering anticipated names consistent with CZ:Naming Conventions)" when changing the title of "Ireland, Republic of" to "Republic of Ireland" and "Ireland, Island of" to "Ireland (island).
However, I think he is wrong on one reading of the reference he provided: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/CZ:Naming_Conventions#Typographical_and_stylistic_rules which currently emboldens: "put keywords first"
Since we can safely envision more than three Ireland articles developing over the course of time I would suggest that this encourages a series such as: Ireland, Republic of Ireland, Southern (interim state in 1922) Ireland, Rugby in Ireland, prehistory Ireland, missionaries from Ireland, writers from Ireland, traditional sports