User talk:Lee R. Berger

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Welcome, new editor! We're very glad you've joined us. Here are pointers for a quick start. Also, when you get a chance, please read The Editor Role. You can look at Getting Started and our help system for other introductory pages. It is also important, for project-wide matters, to join the Citizendium-L (broadcast) mailing list. Announcements are also available via Twitter. You can test out editing in the sandbox if you'd like. If you need help to get going, the forum is one option. That's also where we discuss policy and proposals. You can ask any administrator for help, too. Just put a note on their "talk" page. Again, welcome and thank you! We appreciate your willingness to share your expertise, and we hope to see your edits on Recent changes soon. --Larry Sanger 12:43, 8 August 2007 (CDT)

Lee (if I may), thanks for diving in!

I notice that you're uploading a lot of articles you've contributed to Wikipedia. Please have a look at these guidelines sometime soon. Basically, we need to be checking that "Content is from Wikipedia?" box if the version you've uploaded includes changes made by others. But if it's "pristine," then that's not necessary. The other thing to bear in mind is that, for articles you created and upload here from Wikipedia, we ask that you be committed to working on and maintaining them here. We don't want to be known simply as a WP mirror, as you can imagine. Thanks again! --Larry Sanger 07:00, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Replied on my talk page. --Larry Sanger 07:23, 10 August 2007 (CDT)

Re your query

Hi Professor! Which article? Come reply Thanks, and welcome to CZ. Aleta Curry 17:16, 11 August 2007 (CDT)

New Article of the Week

I have nominated the Primate article as a New Article of the Week. John Stephenson 05:56, 20 August 2007 (CDT)

Taking the lead in Anthropology Workgroup

User:Joe Quick and I have probably been the most active anthro authors, apart from Linguistics. I speak for not only myself but I think also for Joe by saying that your taking the lead there is very much appreciated. Shall we hammer away at Anthropology, first? Anyways, have a great 2 weeks in Madagascar.  —Stephen Ewen (Talk) 02:35, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

Photos

I look forward to your return (and particularly the ensuing photographs!) --Robert W King 12:12, 21 August 2007 (CDT)

help with subpages9 template

Hi Lee, I tweaked the subpages9 template on Prosimian for you to show you how to do it. Check the several edits I made on the talk page and the metadata page. You also don't need to use categories on the article page anymore. Check it and see if it makes sense. Matt Innis (Talk) 07:54, 7 September 2007 (CDT)

Lemurs

Hi Lee, how do the Lemur articles look to you now? Still problematic? I don't see any major problems using a MAC and safari. Chris Day (talk) 14:29, 7 September 2007 (CDT)

Hammering away....

..is an understatement. It's good to see all these articles appearing in the framework of a grand scheme. Hopefully you'll attract more fellow anthropologists when they see what's happening here. Chris Day (talk) 12:54, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

• well next stage is that I am assigning all of my Honours, Masters and Ph.D. students to register and contribute articles for grades so we'll se how that goes.... and at the same time I'm trying to get a Science paper accepted! Hectic here!

Lee R. Berger 12:57, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

Ah, that explains the flurry of edits as semester starts. Have you heard fo the eduzendium program? It is supposed to be inplace to encourage exactly what you are proposing. I'll probably be asking you how it goes since i'd like to do something similar in the future. Chris Day (talk) 13:07, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

• No I hadn't - I'm doing all of these, but I will be setting up my students in two weeks when they get back. I hope it works. What my thoughts are is to assign them a series of articles - say two - and monitor their progress in getting the articles approved. Good training for the peer review process I think? In that line, has there been any progress on getting the authorship credit concept approved? Here in SA if we could get these listed as Encyclopedia articles we can actually get government based research funding for the effort which would increase submission from this side of the pond substantially I would think!

Lee R. Berger 13:13, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

There have been several discussions with respect to this issue and it appears to be still up in the air. Apparently the mediawiki software does have a feature that gives credit to the authors at the bottom of the page (not activated here though). This was discussed here http://forum.citizendium.org/index.php/topic,1134.30.html and it looks like you participated. I see that Larry is not that keen but there seem to be quite a few good arguments for it too. This is definitely something that should be properly addressed since it could represent a big carrot for many academics. Chris Day (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

• As you noted - I certainly agree - if one is to build a truly broad encyclopedia based on interested amatuers and experts then some credit will - I believe - have to be given. Encyclopedias do it and they are really just snail mail Wikis are they not?

Lee R. Berger 13:28, 8 September 2007 (CDT)

Dr. Uner Tan

Hi Lee, I saw that you asked that the author of the article contact you. Dr. Uner Tan is an editor here [1]. You can go to his talk page and then click on the E-mail this user link to the left and I see his email address is available. It would be nice to get that article squared away. Not to mention, I would love to see your outlook on the condition. --Matt Innis (Talk) 23:02, 10 September 2007 (CDT)

I thought you were the right man for the job

(anonymous:) ;-)

ha ha ha

Matt, you're not. Chris Day (talk) 15:32, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Race article

Thanks for your rapid response. i appreciate your help on this! The article Race (biology) is incomplete and nobody seems able to help with that. I am inclined to want to stick with the title Race, because in sociology vocabulary, Racialism is a specific belief in the idea of races. What we probably need to focus on here is the history of race, with separate articles on Race, Racialism, and Racism. [God help us!]. I linked to the stub article on ethnic group, but we also need an article on ethnicity.

If you would prefer to take the major scientific stuff to the Race (biology) article, and we would just summarise and link to that, it would be fine by me. There was also some thought of completely deleting that article...

Anyway, I await your comments! many thanks. --Martin Baldwin-Edwards 07:43, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Barnardius zonarius

This one is getting ready for approval, maybe you can give Kim (that talented 'author') some 'encouragment' here. --Matt Innis (Talk) 13:32, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

I am doing my very best!

As above!

Lee R. Berger 13:59, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Thanks! And I hope I did not hurt your feelings with my opinion about what terminology to use..... Kim van der Linde 14:25, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Not at all! After twenty years in science I have no feelings!

Lee R. Berger 14:39, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

I still have them and every rejected article sucks! Kim van der Linde 14:42, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

Then hold on tight! You are still young!

Lee R. Berger 14:44, 11 September 2007 (CDT)

I am as old as you are! Kim van der Linde 13:30, 12 September 2007 (CDT)

I didn't mean to imply I wasn't young!

(Oh, that was slick ;-)) --Matt Innis (Talk) 13:44, 12 September 2007 (CDT)

Lee R. Berger 13:38, 12 September 2007 (CDT)

LOL, yeah, I know how that goes! Kim van der Linde 13:39, 12 September 2007 (CDT)

Anthropology workgroup homepage

Let me first say that I'm thrilled to see our workgroup finally start to come to life. I hope we can find areas in which we can collaborate. We need to show those biology punks a thing or two about approving articles. ;-)

I'll jump in on the workgroup page soon. I need to tie up a few loose ends in real-life and on the wiki, and then I'll join the party. --Joe Quick (Talk) 15:28, 12 September 2007 (CDT)