Talk:Sathya Sai Baba Movement

Article Checklist for "Sathya Sai Baba Movement"

Workgroup category or categories	Religion Workgroup [Categories OK]
Article status	Developed article: complete or nearly so
Underlinked article?	Yes
Basic cleanup done?	Yes
Checklist last edited by	David Martin 17:57, 15 May 2007 (CDT)

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I do not think that the link to Wikipedia is necessary, because I am the only author of the article in Wikipedia. Andries 13:21, 30 March 2007 (CDT) If nobody made ANY edit whatsoever you are right. (Ergo als je de enige bent die wijzigingen gemaakt heeft: haal de tag dan weg). Groet. Robert Tito |  Talk  13:25, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

Contributions of other people to this article in Wikipedia are neglible. Andries 13:43, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

The article still contains traces of original research or unsourced personal interpretations of the teachings of Sathya Sai Baba. Andries 14:01, 30 March 2007 (CDT)

If you can remove both the edits made by others, and also original research/personal interpretations, all will be well! --Larry Sanger 16:02, 1 April 2007 (CDT)

Articles posted in Wikipedia and licensed GFDL and need to be attributed to Wikipedia, regardless of how many editors contributed to these articles. Jossi 12:44, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

Your opinion is incorrect, Jossi. If a person contributed a piece of content to WP, that person may contribute the same content to CZ under CZ's terms. According to WP itself, contributors to WP are the ones who license their edits; they do not donate their copyrights to WP. In this case, since Andries presumably still has copyright in the content he created and contributed to WP, he may contribute the same material to CZ.

This said, we ought to investigate Andries' claim and ensure that in fact he really is the only [contributor to the material that he has transferred here. See [1]; on the strength of that, I am checking the "Content is from Wikipedia?" box. --Larry Sanger 14:03, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

Please investigate within two weeks. Thanks in advance. Andries 5:43, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

I will treat copying contents from this entry on Citizendium to Wikipedia as a coyyright infringement by Wikipedia. Andries 15:47, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

I checked the history and I re-wrote one of the very, very few edits that I did not make, though even those edits were inspired by me as I had written them on the talk page of another article. I will undo the "From Wikipedia" tag. Andries 15:57, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

If you will look at [2] you will see not "very, very few edits" but dozens of edits by others. For a whole series of edits not by Andries, see [3]. I consider the investigation complete. I am checking the "Content is from Wikipedia?" again. --Larry Sanger 17:20, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

Of course I saw in the history that others have edited the entry, but non of those edits have merited any contents that was retained in either Wikipedia or here. Have you checked the edits? I have. If you have checked the edits then what contents was made by others and copied to Citizendium? Andries 17:29, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

No, but that is more work than I or anyone can possibly be expected to do, and I don't think that we can simply take your word for it. As you yourself said, "Contributions of other people to this article in Wikipedia are neglible." Negligible is different from nonexistent. --Larry Sanger 17:32, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

I checked it and no other contributors made any significant edit to this that was retained. I understand that you do not have the time to investigate matters, but then please stop making erroneous edits due to your lack of expertise on the matter. Andries 17:36, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

I am busy removing the very, very few and minor edits of other contributors in Wikipedia that had still been retained. Andries 18:06, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

I admit that I overlooked one significant edit by another contributor in Wikipedia. [4] I removed it now. [5] Andries 18:30, 13 April 2007 (CDT)

It does not matter. Content that you added to Wikipedia, you added as per the terms of the GFDL. What Larry says may not be correct.See [6]. Jossi Fresco 01:36, 14 April 2007 (CDT)

I have also removed contents regarding affiliated organizations that originally had been submitted by wikipedia user:SSS108 in the Wikipedia entry Sathya Sai Baba. I will re-write it because removal of some of the contents is a real loss. [7]. Andries 08:26, 14 April 2007 (CDT)

I checked all the edits made in Wikipedia to this article and I have removed all contributions made by others anywhere in Wikipedia. A few contributions by Wikipedia user:Krystian, such as the name change, were proposed by first me on Wikipedia talk: Sathya Sai Baba. Andries 15:37, 14 April 2007 (CDT)

I asked for some clarification, and I know understand how this works: Editors in WP retain copyright of material submitted (Larry was right, after all), but the material submitted to WP under the GFDL will remain forever under the GFDL. Jossi Fresco 14:42, 14 April 2007 (CDT)

Yes, and in the future, Jossi, please do not attempt to articulate Citizendium policy that you do not fully understand. --Larry Sanger 15:44, 23 April 2007 (CDT)

I will do my best, and you do yours. Jossi Fresco 21:40, 26 April 2007 (CDT)